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Old 07-25-2014, 02:51 PM   #85
ernie
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Originally Posted by oilers_fan View Post
http://globalnews.ca/news/1470617/ar...lmost-2-hours/

Ridiculous. What a barbaric way for a society to act. And yeah, I know this is rare and is the exception....I just don't care. The death penalty is a black mark on whichever country uses it.

I don't think it is a deterrent, studies show that right? So what's the point? It costs a ton of money, and it can clearly be inhumane.
I haven't read the entire thread so my apologies if I repeat something others said...

The problem is that it isn't rare. Because of necessary end-use agreements companies now typically use to sell goods to customers when it comes to chemicals and what not European manufacturers of drugs will not supply the US penal system. Other companies simply on principal will not supply the drug(s) for this purpose. So as a result they are going to questionable/unknown suppliers, using questionable drug mixtures that aren't proven to work effectively etc etc etc. and this is the 3rd or 4th execution in a small space of time that has been botched and led to what appears to a violation of the 8th ammendment.

And I'll be damned but if you are condemning the guy to death for not following the laws and the constitution you damn well better be making sure you are following them when you carry out the sentence. I don't like John McCain but he is 100% correct that this was torture and a violation of the ammendment.

That doesn't even take into account that the estimates of over 10% of death row inmates are actually innocent. Or that a huge amount have actually been found to be mentally deficient to the point where it should be illegal for the state to seek the death penalty to begin with. Or that many were extremely messed up due to abuse and never stood a chance to begin with. Or the proven racism in the system when it comes to this sentence etc etc etc.

The fact of matter is, at least IMO, is it is not worth the loss of INNOCENT lives just to get vengeance. And that is all it is, vengeance. It has been proven over and over that it isn't a deterrent.

If you ever put the US on a list with China, Iran, Irag, Yemen and Afghanistan the population would be appalled. Except in this case apparently. Then it is something to be applauded somehow. The thing that surprises me is that Japan is top 10 in executions. Never knew that.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/16/justic...html?hpt=hp_c2

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