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Originally Posted by Textcritic
But moreover, this is about more than just Sutter and Iginla. There were other players on the team upon whose ears B. Sutter's message fell with no effect. Is this all because of Iginla? I can't imagine that even a persona as big as his was so overwhelming in that dressing room so as to effectively muzzle Sutter.
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The others guy who didn't buy in were Iginla's pals. Guys like Tanguay were brought here to make Iginla happy. We had a core of very complacent veterans. "The answers are in that room."
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Originally Posted by Textcritic
Finally, it needs also to be pointed out that B. Sutter has not again coached in the NHL, and likely never will.
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It also needs to be pointed out that Darryl Sutter has not GMed again in the NHL, and likely never will. Quite simply, he did not give his brother a very good team to coach.
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Originally Posted by FAN
With that said, there's a huge difference between Iginla joining a Cup contender with a respected captain and established leadership group than being the captain of a team that he's been looked upon to lead the room. On other teams, Iginla was forced to buy in where as in Calgary, he was the one who was suppose to force guys to buy in.
The effect on a team when the leader doesn't rally his team together and allows cliques cannot be underestimated.
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Exactly. I hope we come away from this era with the recognition that someone who is a great player and a great person is not necessarily a great leader. In fact, most of the best leaders in Flames history have been roleplayers, not stars.
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Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm
I've never seen such a cavalcade of excuses for one coach before.
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And I've never seen such a cavalcade of excuses for a roster of players that simply was not very good from 2007-2012. They failed to accomplish anything under Playfair, they failed under Keenan, and they failed under Sutter. That doesn't absolve those coaches from responsibility. But it sure makes it hard to argue that coaching was the only problem.
It hurts to admit it, but that era of the Flames was not especially well managed, or well coached, or very effective on the ice. Flames fans were blind to the mediocrity because it seemed like heaven compared to the dark years. A couple superstar players and an ownership willing to spend to the salary cap masked a lot of problems.