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Old 07-24-2014, 05:18 PM   #61
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Originally Posted by CsInMyBlood View Post
What the hell is RGI?
It is a simple way to quantify a player's grittiness.

(Hits + blocked shots + take aways - give aways) / games played

If this ends up being 1.2 or less you basically have a soft player.

Soft players are okay and intuitively if a player is able to play in the NHL without hitting and blocking shots he probably is exceptionally skilled and usually offensively gifted.

It is pretty simple to see that successful teams... playoff teams / final 4 teams only have 3 or maybe 4 guys with a low RGI.

Teams that don't make the playoffs on a regular basis (Edmonton/ Calgary ) have had more than 4 players that would rather not have to make a hit or block a shot. You can't make up for the 4 softies by having McGratton or even a Yelle / Prust on the team.

This theory, which the Flames management (Burke/Treliving) seems to be following as though it was totally creditable when Feaster and Lowe thought that a team with a swarm of under-sized skilled guys would somehow dazzle the opposition into submission....

When I did the numbers for the GRIT index the soft players on the Flames were:

Stempniak, Cammalleri, Hudler, Tanguay, Cervenka, Baertschi, Derek Smith

of the 7 soft players as shown by my Grit index 6 have moved on.


The RGI really bugged the advanced stats guys as it was more applicable to a hockey teams success than anything they could come up with.

link to the thread

These real time statistics are not of the highest quality and there are some exceptions to the rule : Butler has a high RGI and Logan Couture has a low one..... but scoring stats don't tell the whole story either.... some guys have a higher point total than their skill provides because they get lucky 2nd assists and some guys are better than their scoring stats show because play with line-mates that don't bury the chances they are setup with.

When the Flame put out a lineup that includes Hudler, Gaudreau, Raymond, Baertschi, Granlund and Reinhart it will be a clear indication that they are tanking and going for the high draft choice..... They might have some lop-sided wins and pad the individual stats but they will not consistently win against teams that take them serious.

That is the Oiler model.

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