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Originally Posted by ranchlandsselling
That's not what you initially said though. You said a tesla powered by a coal plant is sooo much better than Joe Blow's 13 year old car.
Great, so is a brand new version of Joe blow's car.
If Joe blow can't affoard a new Tesla the debate on that specific point is moot.
If Joe can affoard a new tesla then he can also affoard a new something else and that's where the comparison should be drawn. I still very well could be the Tesla winning out in the end, I'm not going to argue that I think it wouldn't.
I don't know what you're comparing with remote vs. local emmssions? I'm guessing local would be at the point of energy use (ie the driven vehicle), but I'm not sure the point given wherever the emission takes place it's still an emmission. So it needs to be proven that the coal plant burn per unit of energy is better than the burning and creation of gasoline + transport to end user burn per unit.
Another thing I'm curious about - is there a drain factor on these vehicles? If you leave your car sitting on the driveway it doesn't run out of gas, what's the unused discharge rate of a tesla battery and as they get old are we going to see teslas that require being constantly charged (much like I'm doing with my stupid RV batteries ) or old cell phones that die very quickly.
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Yes they will drain slowly if left on. Any time the ESC is on it will draw a low current. Most high end controllers like Kelly Controllers have an Auto shut off if the motor goes unsed in 5 mins. The chemistry of lithium nickel manganese cobalt oxide has a low self discharge rate. You shouldn't have any problem keeping a charge for its life but your capacity will be affected. Your rv battery is a completely different beast. Theire is no mico circuit board on there to control that sort of thing as on a protected version (some come unprotected tho)18650 cell. Depending on what your idea of an old phone is they were either NiMH or the newer ones are lipo pouch packs. .