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Originally Posted by Shawnski
Jar-e. I truly appreciate you not only as a poster, but as an emergency responder. Huge props.
But what you posted above is simply justification for bad judgements. The arrest IS the issue.
There is one thing I want to know. Did all those cops show up to arrest him on tobacco charges (which would be absurd), or did they pull them out after they were called in for a fight (which he apparently broke up) and had to save "face"?
CYA is normally the standard when you have your arse on the line.
Sigh.. people here slam libertarians for not caring and being selfish. I am a libertarian, and think that we as a group are the MOST caring about each other as we care about individuals. What happened to this gentleman is an absolute outrage, let alone no responses to the other videos I posted....
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I appreciate the props first off. Thank you.
To me, in my minutes of watching the video and skimming this thread...if this guy doesn't die, is this even a story? If there's no video and no death, is there even a blurb about a man being arrested for selling illegal cigarettes?
I'll agree that the arrest and effecting of it lead to the use of force being used which may (or may not) have had any hand in his death. However, at the end of the day, its an in-custody death and will be investigated thoroughly I'm sure. I just wonder if the guy doesn't die, is this even a line in the NY Post? I doubt it. That was my point.
I have no idea (mostly due to my lack of research into the matter) what the original complaint was. I would presume that it'll all come out in due time. I was simply trying to provide the context that despite police and law enforcement being the pointy end of the stick, a lot of times (not specific to this case) that they may not be the ones that require anger and vitriol being directed to...especially as they don't set or make the laws. I realize this is a tad crass in a thread that is focusing on police brutality which usually is based on the use of force.
Some may see it as semantics, but having legal ground to effect an arrest is a very important piece of the puzzle when these things are investigated especially when it comes to force being justified.