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Old 07-20-2014, 08:06 PM   #449
Shawnski
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Originally Posted by underGRADFlame View Post
Just out of curiosity, how would you have effected the arrest of the individual? And he wasn't under detention, he was under arrest.
Wrong starting point.

By all accounts, the victim broke up a fight. Where did he require to be arrested in the first place? By doing so, the police initiated force upon him. As MM noted above, simple reflex is obvious in his response to being grabbed.

Believers in the non-aggression principle would rightfully side with the victim in this case. And to have anyone condone the action is what is most disturbing.

Geezus, the man DIED! Over WHAT? Do we really value life that little that you would even take that chance in a clearly non-life threatening situation?

Yes, I truly believe in peaceful, non-aggressive freedom, as well as self-defence when I have been aggressed upon.

Look, I don't envy the role of a policeman. But they are the front line in determining whether a situation escalates or not. Why do you think trained negotiators are brought in for hostage situations instead of just going Rambo? Why is it that you seem OK with the arrest in the first place? Ever been arrested? Any idea of the costs involved in having been arrested? Twice in my early years I was unjustly arrested and had the courts rule me innocent. But at a helluva financial and emotional cost.

At least I didn't die though...
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