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Old 07-20-2014, 03:45 PM   #434
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Originally Posted by Montana Moe View Post
I'm sure you wouldn't consider theerant a police message board. Just like Calgarypuck isn't an official Calgary Flames message board.

1. Agreed, that's why I didn't comment on the justification of the arrest.

2. The peanut gallery may very well be aware, but sometimes human nature takes over. When you have an ingrained distrust of law enforcement, you may be less than excited to be in their custody. The second someone grabs your neck from behind, you're going to struggle/resist no matter who you are, the situation likely wouldn't matter.

3. I'm not suggesting that officers actively seek out people to kill. What I am suggesting is that there are too many that see the individuals they deal with as less than people, which can lead to justification of actions which would otherwise be unacceptable.

4. I have no doubt that this is the case. I'm sure that police officers have the training and expertise to determine adequate airway restriction.

5. Perhaps the man did consider his preexisting conditions, and weighed those risks against preexisting knowledge/experience he and others have had with the NYPD.



While I may have been spurred to comment by this most recent situation, I'm more concerned with the greater issue of police officers and a seemingly increasing dehumanization of the people they serve.

Is it a tactic to cope with what they have to deal with in their day to day duties? Is it part of the training curriculum as it is in the military? Is there some truth to the idea that the occupation simply attracts a certain personality trait?

There are obviously larger sociological issues at play regarding the relationship between police departments and certain sections of society. Do the officers here have any suggestions on how to bridge that gap, or is that not a priority/concern on the individual level?
He wasn't fighting or resisting at all. The cop put him in a rear naked choke out of surprise. It's pretty clear that the cop used excessive force to detain a person. I know justice will not be served in this case so I hope that POS cop will be haunted the rest of his life of the fact that he murdered an innocent person who leaving behind five children and wife.
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