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Originally Posted by Montana Moe
Staten Island man dies while being detained by NYPD.
Video of police action. The dude dies, so, nsfw, I reckon:
The tactics, justification, etc. are all defensible, I'm sure. What isn't is the mindset of the #######s that post on this police message board:
theerant.com
That's just from page 1.
I know that there is the veil of anonymity which allows these clowns to act/talk tougher then they would in reality (hopefully, anyway), and I'm sure it would be easy to get desensitized as a police officer. With LEO's going to work every day with these sort of attitudes, it's easy to see why there is a mistrust of LEO's in certain communities.
On a larger scale, the continued militarization of local police forces leads to less and less personal interaction with the communities they serve. It gets easier to dehumanize the individual. It's one of the worst results of the War on Drugs/post 9-11 U.S. |
What I'm not going to do is defend the comments made on a message board because we all know every message board has its crazies that are no indicative of the majority, this board reflects that on a daily basis. Plus I would not put therant as a police message board.
Now to look at the video, the video is incomplete from what I've seen so we have no idea the actual story leading up to what is seen in they video.here's a few things to consider....
1: Just because "bystanders" attested that this man "had done nothing" doesn't mean he wasn't lawfully arrestable for a different offence (in this case the illegal sale of cigarettes). More accurately it means "he didn't do anything that I noticed in the last five minutes that would seem to make him eligible for arrest." Which when translated, means, "I really have no idea."
2: Why does the peanut galley always forget that the law actually requires citizens to cooperate when advised they are under arrest? The process in place for disputing the validity of an arrest is COURT - NOT an argument, fight, or struggle with the officer/s. This, in fact, is an additional offence (resisting arrest) and allows officers as much force as is necessary to effect the arrest......they then have to answer for their decisions.
3: Lets also not forget that cops support their families n pay their bills via these decisions....ergo.....in most cases it is HIGHLY unlikely officers such as these woke up in the morning & thought "Hmmm, think I'll risk my life, family, and livelihood by killing an innocent man today!"
4: Believe it or not MOST people that are placed under arrest lie to the police at one time or another.....so saying "I can't breath" has mixed value....especially when u need to breath to speak at all - just saying.
5: Officers can't possibly know the pre-existing conditions of every person they meet.....but this man knew of his own health issues......don't u think HE shoulda considered them before deciding to resist arrest & fight with the Police? I would have......
Just somethings to think about.