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Originally Posted by Pointman
To be fair, even if it was shot down by the separatists, the degree of Russia's involvement has yet to be determined, and it might very well be 0. They could steal or bribe BUK from ukrainians and separatists do have war veterans who may know how to use it without Russia's help.
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I respect you but if you honestly believe that Russia had no involvment with this then you're in need of some help.
Russia invaded Chrimea and tried to say they didn't, they're funding these "rebels" which I would be more willing to belive that many of them are Russians fighting here. Heck the rebel leader is a russian citizen