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Old 07-15-2014, 11:34 PM   #404
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Originally Posted by AltaGuy View Post
My apologies if my assertion does not fit with your fictional narrative. Polls from Israel before the "disengagement" showed a majority of Israelis were in favour, with good reason: having your children conscripted to protect Israel is one thing, having them conscripted to protect the lunatic fringe quite another. Many on the Israeli Right were thoroughly against it - true - but Sharon managed to push it through.

As for this "Test Case" scenario - you are making this up completely. Your narrative here is completely fabricated. I'm not even sure why you are doing it, to tell you the truth. Sharon himself said of the disengagement that he wanted to consolidate Israeli resources around permanent West Bank settlements, and that it was for Israeli security. At the same time, four of the more remote settlements were removed in the West Bank that required disproportionate protection.

However, expansion of permanent settlements in the West Bank continued apace, and today there are approximately 75,000 more settlers in the West Bank than there were in 2006.
Firstly the Israeli polls did not indicate that....

As things got closer to the disengagement support fell below 50%. Keep in mind this is a population where 20-25% of the population is Arab. Even with that huge sway within the population they barely managed a majority in many polls and lost many polls:

http://zoa.org/2005/06/101974-new-is...n-drops-to-48/


There also no such thing as remoteness in Israel. Israel and the occupied territories are geographically tiny. Israel has many soldiers along the border with Jordan, regardless of whether they have settlements there. You're talking about the military deployment like they're deploying troops to far off Antartica. The Gaza Strip is 6-12 km wide. It's literally a 10 minute drive from the remotest parts to Israel.

What's going on is obvious and stated. Israel was fed up with negotiating and began their own unilateral plans. They were going to withdraw behind the West Bank barrier. At no point was it ever on the table that Israel would move back to 1967 "borders". The plan was always a final peace plan based on those borders with negotiated land swaps from territory in the North of Israel where there are Arab majorities

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