[Chill Cosby]

Originally Posted by Nage Waza

You are the person that seemed to think Hamas (terrorists) are the same as the IDF. They are completely different. You shrug off every post almost like you did not read them.



I condemn those that post the lies and nonsense. If you are not, I respond.

Your version of the truth generally seems to be less about honesty, and more about keeping a consistent pro-Israel rhetoric.

Originally Posted by Nage Waza

You have yet to show a reasonable (or any) alternative for Israel. Should they sit back and not fire? Despite the fact the people 'voted' in Hamas (although clearly it was done under duress), and Hamas has declared war on Israel, and Hamas fires from the most populated areas possible, I guess I should ignore all of that. After how many rocket attacks did you post a condemnation of Hamas? Wait, you didn't? You are here though to condemn Israel. You should be posting way to get rid of Hamas, if protecting lives is what you care about.

Unfortunately I'm not a military professional. You and I both know that to be true, so to be honest I'm not ready with a solution. I do, however, know solutions exist as other nations seem to not lay waste to civilian populations for 20+ years. This is not unique to Israel however. The US has been guilty of killing an incredible amount of civilians in recent conflicts.

You're correct, I didn't post how many rockets Hamas fired. You did. Again. And again. And again. I have noted or agreed with every single bad thing Hamas has done, you however, are simply interested in protecting your fictional view of Israel, not in balanced discussion. When someone says "Israel shouldn't do this" you respond with "well Hamas shouldn't do this." The actions of Israel are not excusable by reference to the actions of Hamas, so stop pretending it is as such.

Originally Posted by Nage Waza

Israel has a right to defend itself, you can't make up rules that are not true. This is not a difficult concept to understand, yet you cannot seem to. Israel is responding to hundreds of rockets that have been fired for months - with no Israeli retaliation. They have had enough.

Of course they have the right to defend themselves. Who is making up rules?

Originally Posted by Nage Waza

Hamas has been using them as shields and Israel does what it can to mitigate that issue. Yes, certain predicaments require action. What do you think would happen if North Korea launched rockets at South Korea? The same thing, a response. They won't just sit and let it happen. Yet Israel has for months.

Israel isn't mitigating the issue if it isn't clearly effective.

Great article by the way, some things you should take from it:

First, it’s important not to get consumed by whether you love or hate Israel. There will be other wars in other places. We need to build rules that apply everywhere. Second, we don’t need to debate the conduct of Hamas.

Stop debating the conduct of Hamas. I've never questioned the negative implications or reasons behind their conduct. You have a serious issue differentiating between defence of Hamas and criticism of Israel.
They are not the same.

On the whole, the worst incidents in Gaza have resulted from strikes on houses. In traditional rules of war, houses are off limits. Israel’s stated rationale for hitting houses in Gaza is that “Hamas was running the operations of their units out of these homes. Some had weapons storage caches in them.” But residents have already asserted that in some cases there was no such basis. Israel hasn’t clarified whether it thinks these houses were valid targets or whether it hit them by accident.

Hitting houses is against the rules of war.
Israel claims to hit houses because of terrorist occupation, but can't even verify it's own information.

leafleting is unreliable, and radio announcements about “areas” are, by nature, vague ... In one incident, residents say that there was no phone call and that the strike, which killed six people, came only four minutes after the knock. In another case, a video shows just one minute between the knock and the strike. In two of the worst mass-death incidents, one in Khan Yunis and the other in Rafah, residents say there were no warnings ... Israel has also killed civilians at sites where no Hamas link has been established. The worst was a nine-fatality strike on a café where people were watching the World Cup. Another was a four-fatality strike on a house in al-Meghazi. Another strike killed the driver of a news agency vehicle which, according to the Palestinian news site Ma’an, was clearly marked “TV.”

That isn't consistent with a nation that mitigates civilian casualties to the best of their ability.

Israel says Hamas has inflated the civilian death count by telling Gazans to ignore strike warnings and stand in harm’s way. It’s true that some Gazans have done this ... It’s not clear how often this has happened or what role Hamas has played

Is this narrative regarding Hamas forcing people to be human shields true? This article doesn't seem to say it as confidently as you do.

And the top comment on the article seems apt. Israel has been killing Palestinians before Hamas, and will kill Palestinians long after Hamas is gone.

Here's an article you should read. It's not about Israel, or Hamas, it's about the innocent people:
https://news.vice.com/article/thousa...rce=vicenewsfb