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Old 07-10-2014, 11:22 AM   #294
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I actually think Israel building the wall is a good step towards peace. It defines a physical line in the sand that they shouldn't expand past. The line might suck for Palestinians but they didn't take all of the West Bank. Long term having a physical line created regardless of if either side likes it should aid in the peace process.

I hate that this debate always seems to be around assessing fault and who is worse. It isn't. Each countries behaviour should be evaluated on if they could do better.

Can Isreal ensure its security and reduce the number of Civilian casulaties? I believe this is yes so the international community should put pressure on Isael to develop better war practices. The above can be asked in a vacuum regardless of what Hamas or any other Arab nation or terrorist group does. Israel as a liberal democracy can do better and should do better.

The palestinians should also reject Hamas and all arab nations should recognize Israels right to exist and stop funding terrorist groups.

People don't need to take sides of who is better or worse. One side does not need to improve for the other side to improve. The Stop the rockets, stop the retaliation argument is a red herring.
Good post, and I generally agree, but I feel that the bolded has to be the first domino... there is simply no other way to initiate the process. It's really the only thing that hasn't been tried at least once since this whole ordeal began. I don't believe that if Israel ever stepped down, and withdrew to the their original boundaries, that it would prompt their neighbours to stop calling for their destruction. It would also put the onus squarely on Israel at that point.

I wish I understood the settlement issue a little more. From what I have been told, they are actually widely unpopular in mainstream Israeli society, but some rich and politically powerful people have been able to keep them going.
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