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Originally Posted by GGG
I actually think Israel building the wall is a good step towards peace. It defines a physical line in the sand that they shouldn't expand past. The line might suck for Palestinians but they didn't take all of the West Bank. Long term having a physical line created regardless of if either side likes it should aid in the peace process.
I hate that this debate always seems to be around assessing fault and who is worse. It isn't. Each countries behaviour should be evaluated on if they could do better.
Can Isreal ensure its security and reduce the number of Civilian casulaties? I believe this is yes so the international community should put pressure on Isael to develop better war practices. The above can be asked in a vacuum regardless of what Hamas or any other Arab nation or terrorist group does. Israel as a liberal democracy can do better and should do better.
The palestinians should also reject Hamas and all arab nations should recognize Israels right to exist and stop funding terrorist groups.
People don't need to take sides of who is better or worse. One side does not need to improve for the other side to improve. The Stop the rockets, stop the retaliation argument is a red herring.
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Once again, not a single person in this thread is on the side of Hamas.
No one is defending them. Everyone is very aware they are at terrorist organization that now functions as the local government.
Basically, there is this huge straw man in this discussion that any criticisms of Israeli policy either make you an anti-semite (Nage's FIRST post in this thread was accusing someone of anti-semitism), or, you're defending Hamas.
This isn't the case and never has been.
Israel's most ardent defenders in this thread are the only ones making excuses for barbarism and violence.