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Old 07-08-2014, 10:09 PM   #216
Nage Waza
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I dont think Israel is blameless in opressing palestinians and creating a social and economic climate that makes it easier for groups like Hamas to recuit terrorists but that doesnt chane the fact that advocating for a one state solution is the same as advocating for the elimination of Israel.
Although I am sure Israeli retaliation can certainly lead to support of Hamas, there are similar groups that exist throughout the middle east, unrelated to Israel. Hamas just happens to be another. Hamas has peace with no group, let alone Israel and Palestinians.

Saudis and Iran (and others) fund Hamas. I think their goal is to promote violence and keep things bad in order to make Israel look bad, keep the cycle going, so that wealthy and prosperous and free Palestinians will not exist. Think of it, if Palestinians really did prosper with Israel, what would that mean to the rest of monarchs/supreme rulers/regimes? Israel certainly has problems, but it is truly a free country which sticks out against some of it's neighbors. Otherwise, how does any of this make sense? Just today Israel offered to pull back the military in exchange for stopping the rockets, instead they shoot more. If Abbas did take steps for peace I don't think he would survive.

I really hope the Arab Spring leads to more people with a similar desire to have increased freedoms and a better understanding/sensitivity of the rest of the world.
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