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Originally Posted by Azure
Perhaps you should start by admitting that Israel has contributed a lot of good in the region and throughout the world and work from there.
Both sides are entrenched in their view on the conflict, but that is what you get after 50 years of conflict. Israel has been defending their own borders since their country was created. It is pretty much a way of life from them now.
Shocking that they would act like they are whenever someone openly calls for destruction of their country.
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The Jewish immigrants have brought a lot to the Middle East, just as any immigrant population does.
I remember my Grandmother telling me stories about her mom traveling from Haifa to Jerusalem to see a Jewish Doctor that was the best in the entire region. I also remember hearing stories about how my Great Grandfather had Jewish employees and co-workers that were his best friends and how he could relate to them just as much as his Arab buddies.
The State of Israel though, I can't get behind it. At least not in its current iteration. Have they brought anything good to the region? I don't know. Democracy, education, women's rights, freedom...etc. Sure, but I can't look past the fact that more than a third of the people living between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean don't get to enjoy those things. They brought all those things for themselves and themselves only and decided to oppress the ones that don't belong to the correct religion.
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Originally Posted by GGG
Demographically this fails within 100 years because the palistinian birth rate is greater than the jewish birthrate and their is more opportunity for immigration from other arab states. So a single state solution results in a minority Jewish population. So in order for any single state solution to work you would need someway of protecting minority rights. And given that all the other arab nations have destroying Isreal on the agenda I dont see a fancy piece of paper ensuring minority rights.
So until such a time that all states recognize israels right to exist a single state solution is non viable.
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In any democracy, minorities are protected. I'm not calling for mob rule where parties like Hamas or their equivalent on the Jewish side can run for office, murder non-muslims and impose sharia law. What I envision is a secular democracy that guarantees the rights of everyone within its borders and protects its citizens from external threats.
And if it's going to be anyone that can help this sort of thing happen, it is the open minded, peace loving Jews that can help their like minded Arab brothers and sisters get to that point.