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Originally Posted by dammage79
Like I also said, if they cannot work out a cap dump deal with the Hawks, then the Flames wait until the 15th and sign Hayes anyways. The point I was making was there is an opportunity here to help CHI at he same time. I don't really care about what the other teams would do, because they aren't getting Hayes. The report said Hayes will most likely sign in CGY because, the Gaudreau effect.
But make no bones about it. Those of you who think the Hawks will get anything substantial in return for whatever cap dump they make, are severely over estimating things.
I just got jumped on saying the Flames should drop their asking price in said cap dump trade discussions because teams don't want to add firsts to a cap dump trade in another thread, then this comes up and all of a sudden the Flames can't offer enough? Backwards thinking by responding posters. And maybe because its a scenario that folks cannot wrap their head around because the Flames come out on top. I don't know, figure it out.
Chicago needs to dump almost 3 million n cap. more if they need to sign some people. They put themselves in that situation and the Flames, offering up a moderate package for the rights to a player they know they can sign for nothing along with a cap hit player, is exactly the kind of scenario folks have been clamouring for since this whole cap dump shenanigans began.
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The difference is that a true cap dump is when you need to trade garbage (e.g. Kotalik) to clear space and you're at the mercy of the team taking that player.
In the Hawks case, if Leddy and Oduya are in play then it's not a pure dump - these guys have value so there is a hockey trade to be made. Yes the Hawks are hamstrung by needing to make a move but it's not too different from if the players had requested trades - you still auction them to the highest bidder, and there will be several, you just won't A grade offers