[Bleeding Red]

Originally Posted by Crumpy-Gunt

Yeah...its only those Muslim Arabs who oppose the Israeli zionist regime. How about Nelson Mandela, Noam Chomsky and former US president Jimmy Carter?

I can play that game too - South African MP Rev. Dr. Kenneth Meshoe; Alan Dershowitz; Khaled Abu Toameh; Austrailian Prime Minister Tony Abbott; Canadian Prime Minister Stephen harper.

Or the thousands of orthodox jews who protest every year against zionist Israel and call for its peaceful destruction

Some reference for other readers - The Neturei Karta are a sect of Ultra-Orthodox Judaism, numbering about 5,000-6,000. Their staunch belief is that ONLY G-D can bring about the return of Jews to the Land of Israel through the Messiah. They deem the modern State of Israel as not holding to true, strict Jewish law as they interpret it - no equal rights for women, homosexuality is an abomination, no pigs/pork or seafood in the land, everything is closed on Saturday. (Can you find any pictures of US Satanic Cults - they have just as much respect.).

P.S. someone who is on the Palestinian side of things cannot be labeled anti-Semitic. Arabs are semitic people as well. Semitic meaning someone who descends from the biblical son of Noah called Shem. So cut the crap about everyone who sympathizes with the Palestinians being anti-semitic. They are both semitic people, supporting Palestine doesnt make you anti-semitic it makes you anti-zionist

P.S. Thanks for the biblical definition of Semitic. It is widely accepted by the right, the left, academics, laypeople, leaders, and the public that the modern definition of Antisemitism is "Hatred towards Jews."

I agree that not everyone who sympathizes with the Palestinians is Anti-Semitic. That doesn't make you anti-Zionist either. One can sympathize with Palestinians and still argue and advocate for a two-state solution, criticize Israels policies (home demolishons, checkpoints, the security fence) and it's government (too right wing, to much power with small religious parties), and criticize Palestinian leadership (too weak to take a bold step, saying one thing to the West and the opposite to the Arab street).

But when one moves into topics like "Israel has not right to exist", "Jews do not have real ties to the land or Jerusalem.", "Israel is only there is ease the world's guilt over WWII", That is anti-semitism and the one espousing those views tries to mask it as anti-zionism. They are one and the same.

And to those of you calling it a hatecrime when people label Israel as a theocratic apartheid state - you are completely ignorant of what the words anti-semitism or hate crime mean.

It is not a hate crime when you label Israel an Apartheid state - it is a lie and a slur.

I have no interest in accusing anyone of being ignorant of anything - most here generally seem pretty rational and we all use our own competing sources to help prove our points. Hell, I even read Noam Chomsky (at the behest of Flash Walken) - I found him laborious and dismissive of violence and rehtoric on the other side.

I do think you need to work on your definitions of Aparthied, Anti-semitism, Theocracy, and hate-crime.

I have only come across one poster who was indeed anti-Semitic and I made my case to the moderators. He no longer posts here.