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Old 07-03-2014, 01:56 PM   #504
Kjesse
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Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda View Post
Obama has always had great speeches, but he will be remembered as a weak, ineffectual president, stained with scandals like the NSA and veterans healthcare. Actions count a lot more than words
He plowed (somewhat) universal health care through, and that's an amazing feat given the system he was dealing with. Even if the end product leaves something to be desired, he got it through, a massive accomplishment.

Otherwise I would agree, since then he has been weak including the implementation of the (somewhat) universal health care. The whole NSA thing demonstrates the President is not in control. Pretty scary.
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