Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothpops
It's hard to explain, but i'll give it a shot (there's so much history and intangibles, that one post isn't enough) . Living conditions in Palestine are horrendous. the IDF can basically arrest and burn down/bomb houses indiscriminately (which they do, and they don't).
|
Living conditions are often considered better than the rest of the arab world, but yah I figured you would gloss over that. Living conditions of Palestinians living in Israel? World class. Hamas does a terrible job of raising the quality of life via terror. Please let me know when the IDF is doing this. From every good source, the only reason there is any threat from IDF is due to rockets and other terrorism. The fact you do not mention this is very telling and one sided.
Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothpops
hospitals are underfunded and there's no insurance. food and access to water in some places are cut, and of course there's no jobs and the economy is basically non-existent (Palestinians used to go to Israel and work there during the day, but now they can't reliably get through security check points). All of this has been going on long before Hamas was elected. Here's where Hamas comes in, (and why Palestinians won't just get rid of them);
|
You forgot to mention that Palestinians get treatment also at Israeli hospitals, including Abbas' wife. Things were going well for Palestinians until the intifadah, why don't you mention that?
Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothpops
because of foreign funding (Iran and previously Egypt) Hamas provides jobs and monetary allowances, they act as the police and firecrews, they rebuild houses that have been torn down and give montary compensation, they help build and fund hospitals, they act as insurance companies, they maintain the tunnels so people can smuggle in goods, gas and food. to the outside world they're terrorists, but to Palestinians they're seen as freedom fighters.
|
They also launch rockets from their houses, schools and hospitals. They are seen as freedom fighters due to radical teaching.
Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothpops
It's david vs Goliath, and while David may provoke goliath, to them goliath is and has always been a bully. Hamas provides integral services that they depend on, and that dependency has only increased since 2007 when they were voted in as their government.
|
They are terrorists, nice try painting them as anything but.
Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothpops
Anyone that was put in Palestinian conditions would accept Hamas' help. If Hamas had been there offering all this after Katrina, New Orleans would be voting them into office.
|
So what do you explain for the radicals in the rest of the Arab world? This is the only region immune to it due to big bad Israel? If things were going well for Palestinians the rest of the Arab world would look pretty bad due to their low standard of living - they cannot afford Palestinians to do well and so fund Hamas.