[Hackey]

Originally Posted by theoforever

Empty rhetoric, I think you are running out of ammunition.
Tell me where I went wrong as you didn't last time around.
Just for completeness here is a copy of what I wrote:

"A little history:

Buffalo fired Lindy Ruff Feb 20/2013 and replaced him with a guy with 0 NHL experience in Rolston.

Buffalo blow up starts March 30/2013:

March 30/2013 Leopold for picks, UFA
April 01/2013 Regehr for picks, UFA
April 03/2013 Pominville for picks and prospects, none of immediate impact. 1 year left on the deal.
June 30/2013 Sekera for McBain and pick

Many saw these trades as a fire sale and many jokes were floating around, including infomercial Sabres FireSale which you can find on YouTube.
Miller and Vanek trade rumours start prior to the 2013/2014 and Sabres try to move them but it takes time to find Snow. Pominville trade is similar in nature to JBO trade.

Sabres move on the Vanek trade for picks early Oct 27/2013. Snow proves he is an idiot once again. Everyone knows that Moulsen is going to be traded at the deadline for more picks.

Feb 28/2013 Miller and Ott traded for Halak (throw-in), Stewart, prospect and picks;
March 5/2014 Molson traded for picks.

Fire-Sale of monumental proportions!

Record
Buffalo 2009/10 100pts; 2010/11 96pts; 2011/12 89pts; 2012/13 48pts; 2013/14 52pts;
Calgary 2009/10 90pts; 2010/11 94pts; 2011/12 90pts; 2012/13 42pts; 2013/14 77pts;
Sabres dive is extremely noticeable, not so in Flames case.

Some people in this thread have said that Buffalo was weaker than Calgary others that Buffalo had better players. Which one is it?
Buffalo may have had better players but they traded them all for future despite being in less dire circumstance.
Some are saying Sabres should get points for being smart and starting rebuild early. I don't have a problem with that. However, one cannot deny that Sabres made the choice to be bad now in order to have a better future. - TANK

The argument that Buffalo tried to be good in 2013/2014 and somehow underperformed is complete nonsense. The team was being setup to be bad, scorched earth policy in effect. The fact that they were shopping Vanek for futures from day one proves it.

Sabres had chosen to rebuild using scorched earth policy, they didn't have to but wanted to. In my opinion they over did it, to the point that it will take them many years to dig out of the sewer they crawled into, btw. the sewer was occupied by the Oilers. 52 points is a huge hole to get out of.
Monumental tank job.

Sabres will have to get better but this may not be possible without giving up future.
Logical plan is to let the kids develop, get top 2 pick in 2015 and most likely 2016. Considering the current situation they should be much better although most likely not a playoff team by 2017/2018.


On the other hand Flames were forced into the rebuild. Kipper forgot how to stop the puck and retired a year before his contract expired. Iginla would not re-sign despite Flames trying to re-sign him to the last moment. JBo is the only guy they didn't have to trade. Tangs refused to support the rebuild. Flames have made several trades in attempt to stop the bleeding as for example Smid, Russell etc. (something that Sabres did not)
77 points is not bad.

Flames will now do the logical thing and refuse to get better by giving up future.
The plan is to let the kids develop one more year, get another high pick in 2015.
After that Flames are hoping on a rebound in 2015/2016.
I called this unofficial tank job, treading the water for one more year."

I'm not going to try and argue with someone who's homer glasses are so red they can't even see through them. We can agree to disagree.