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Originally Posted by 19Yzerman19
For everyone saying that it won't hurt Calgary to sign Engelland to that deal, you may be right. But whether or not a bad contract has any practical impact on the team does not cause it to cease being a bad contract.
And I do appreciate that. I have some frustration on this point though, because while this board is actually a pretty good place to talk about hockey in comparison to some of the other alternatives out there, there is obvious Flames homerism (which is to be expected) and groupthink, which create a mob mentality that is much more aggressive in suppressing minority opinions and dissent than anything one poster could muster.
In other words, in order to actually challenge any of the trite, overly simplistic, traditional and often wrong perspectives on hockey that arise in discussions with any group of hockey fans (especially casual ones who hear it from talking heads), "I'm sorry but I believe you're mistaken" doesn't really seem to get through. Without strenuous objection to conventional thinking there isn't a discourse. With it, we can come to a better understanding. I believe that any attempt to stifle that by encouraging everyone to put on the kid gloves is doing a disservice to the quality of hockey discussion on here. There's a line, obviously, but I think the forum rules in saying "attack the idea, not the person" supply that line.
I would prefer an energized lively debate with strong opinions in which people posit their views assertively to a lot of everyone agreeing about everything, challenging nothing and foregoing any real debate as to whether or not the conventional view makes any actual sense. This is just my opinion, and of no practical consequence given that I'm just a member... except that I would hope you would consider it as an alternative perspective on what makes for a good discussion board from someone who has also moderated a pretty big one since about 2006. Or at least, hope you see where I'm coming from.
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1) Just because you think you are right, doesn't make it so. Everyone is 'full of themselves' if they think they are right all the time.
2) The bolded is what is abrasive (didn't have to read the rest of your post). Calling someone 'wrong' makes someone else defensive. You feel this isn't enough. Why do you feel the need to tell someone they are wrong? Instead of pointing fingers and forcing posters into an automatic defensive mindset, instead just say: "I think that.."
The need to call posters wrong (or worse!) is what causes many fights, not discussions. The sooner you learn that, the better off you will be on all boards, not to mention your personal life.
Still, some people enjoy coming to different boards and starting to fights anyways. If this is you, please disregard the above.