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Originally posted by Reaper@Oct 13 2004, 04:50 PM
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Originally posted by the_only_turek_fan@Oct 13 2004, 04:45 PM
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Originally posted by Reaper@Oct 13 2004, 04:44 PM
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@Oct 13 2004, 04:41 PM
In fact it motivates ppl that dont have a lot going for them to engage in criminal behavior.
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This is the most ridiculous thing that I've read all day.
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How?
If you had no food and lived on the street.
Why not do something bad, go to jail and get all the basic needs all for free?
Would you like that? Or to sit outside in the -30 temperature begging for pennies and dimes?
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You state your case as if it were commonplace for people to commit crimes so they can go to jail for food and shelter.
It is really ridiculous for two reasons:
1) Most people don't like to give up their freedom in the way that jail forces you to.
2) Grass roots social programs actually go a long way towards feeding the destitute.
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You state your case as if it were commonplace for people to commit crimes so they can go to jail for food and shelter.
Where did I say that it was common?
Dont put words in my mouth.
All I suggested is that it was a free way to get out of there current situation.
1) Most people don't like to give up their freedom in the way that jail forces you to.
Ahhhhh, when you have no home, no money and no food, I dont think your freedom is your number one concern. I think getting food and shelter would be?
Or is that ridiculous as well?
Grass roots social programs actually go a long way towards feeding the destitute.
Riggggggght, hence all the people on the streets that are beging for money.
Now I am not suggesting that these people are going to commit a crime, but that option for them and a better life is there. [/b][/quote]
Obviously, you don't know what it means for someone to put words in your mouth. I did not attribute any statement to you that you did not say. I wrote:
You state your case as if it were commonplace for people to commit crimes so they can go to jail for food and shelter.
I merely inferred how I thought your statement came across. That's not putting words in your mouth. That's a matter of interpreting your point of bias. Believe it or not, it is possible for you to refute my statement without getting all p*ssy about it.
As far as sacrificing personal freedom goes... Have you ever been forced to give up your freedom? Have you ever been homeless or starving? If not, Then you can't speak as if you would know what someone in those positions would do. Many homeless persons actually forego staying at shelters because they feel they would be "locked down" and prefer to spend the night in the cold over feeling an impingement on their freedom.
As far as begging for change goes, most people who beg for money don't do it so they can buy food. The vast majority of begging proceeds go towards fueling drug and alcohol addictions.