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What does where a guy is drafted have to do with fans opinions?
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I guess I'm not talking about fan opinions so much as draft position, which is what I thought the thread was about generally.
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And what have those guys done at the NHL level to prove they were drafted low?
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Petan and Point? Well, nothing, but given that Petan was drafted last summer and Point won't be drafted until a few days from now I feel like you're being a bit harsh.
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Patrick was tiny but talented he went first, Gagner pretty small the same year but went 5th. Small can still go high but they have to show a reason to take them that high.
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Again, referring to specific guys isn't helpful - you can find lots of examples of different types of players and sizes to attempt to justify any viewpoint on the draft. However, with respect to those two guys, Gagner was drafted too high largely because of his linemate made him look better than he was. I assume "Patrick" is Kane, and um look at his junior numbers there was no way he wasn't going at the top of the draft, the guy was psychotic in his draft year. The decision to draft him first on the basis of his skill seems to have worked out okay, by the way. But usually first overally picks are pretty consensus, anyway, and I don't think my top 4 (in spite of priorities you disagree with) are different than most peoples'.
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What hurts a guys draft standing more than anything is looking like he can't play in the NHL.
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No one can play in the NHL before they're drafted, so one can judge this accurately when a player is 17 years old. There will be hits and misses. The point is that the criteria traditionally used to determine whether someone "looks like they can play in the NHL" is misguided in my opinion.