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Old 06-19-2014, 08:20 AM   #239
nfotiu
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Originally Posted by Maritime Q-Scout View Post
So it's the level of slur that's relevant? The Mississippi Negros would be acceptable because it isn't as bad a N*gger?

That's like saying "it's ok for me to call you a d*uchebag because I didn't call you an a**hole".
I think the argument is more is it a slur or not. Is negro a slurr or just a word that became outdated? Is black a slur? It seems to me that around here the only people who call black people African Americans are the ones who are people who think they are going out of their way to show how not racist they are, even though they are most likely to be the ones who cross the street if a black person is coming the other way. While, the people who hang out with a healthy mix of different races seem to just casually say white guy or black guy. Oddly enough, the most common. and mean spirited slur used to refer to black people around here is to call then Canadians. So, what now, is Montreal's name in trouble? It just seems there is no black or white way to determine slur vs non-slur, and the evidence that Redskins is a slur is not very compelling.
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No it's the same argument, just a progression of it.

Names of teams that honour Native American tribes are likely fine, in the same way that team names that honour other groups of people are fine (Canucks, Canadiens, Texans comes to mind).

As for Tamahawk chop, mascots etc, if the Native American communities think it's inappropriate then they should stop.

Alas this isn't something that will change all at once. You have to start somewhere, change takes time and happens incrementally.

Cleveland is taking small steps to gradually make the team less offensive. It's mind boggling that Washington is digging in their heels.
I think there is a big grey area of what is what is honoring and what is not. It seems the general population generally doesn't have a problem with most of the names, etc. There is a vocal group that obviously does have a problem with the names. But my question is: Does that vocal group represent the majority of Native Americans? I haven't seen anything to convince me one way or another on that question.
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