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Old 06-10-2014, 03:12 PM   #209
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Haven't turned up anything on net effect - but since we're talking about weight loss being nearly impossible, one could reason that preventative effects would likely outweigh "curative" effects.
Which is what people have been saying in this thread. But as long as the myth of weight loss being simple is perpetuated then there's no reason to focus on prevention, when prevention should be front and centre.

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As for why not kill of the fat people... well that's a cure that's worse than the disease. Hierarchy of rights and all that. Obvious thing is obvious!
So what level of ignoring rights and suppressing freedoms is acceptable then? Some people would value freedom above life.

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As for government mandated health restrictions, no thanks again. I'm more about manipulating incentives than outright bans. That approach preserves a greater degree of personal freedom while still moving you towards societal goals.
Except for the freedoms you want to restrict because they might result in normalization?

Government already mandates tons of health restrictions in the form of limitations and outright bans. Companies can't use sweet sweet cocaine in their foods. Why not let them, people can decide for themselves if they want to get addicted to the cocaine in the high school lunch program food, and if only 5% of cocaine addicts can get off of it, well hey it's possible right?

It's not like we're talking about benign substances, we're talking about things that short circuit the body's ability to self-regulate in the quantities and types that the industry uses. Why should we NOT limit the amount of salt in a kid's grocery store lunch kit to less than the entire daily recommended intake?

It's like scamming people, enough people are vulnerable to scamming that society decides that it should be specifically illegal. Processed food companies are basically scamming the body and society because most people are vulnerable to it. Setting guidelines and targets that those companies have to meet is no different than the other guidelines and targets those companies have to meet in the interest of public health.
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