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Old 06-09-2014, 03:22 AM   #230
Daradon
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Originally Posted by Azure View Post
Uhhh, no.

All I'm saying is that despite our best efforts we might not be able to reverse the warming trend.

Has nothing to do with thinking we shouldn't do anything.

You're reading way too much into what I said.
I know. I got that, that's part of the problem I have with your reasoning. You think you're absolving yourself by saying, 'eh, it could be a losing cause'. But really, it's only a losing cause because people like you have that attitude.' It's a self perpetuating failure.

You say you want to do something, you say your open to something, but that reasoning gives you away. What you really want is a magic cure that doesn't upset the status quo so bad. You'd be open to that. Yeah, so would everyone else.

I'm not reading in man, your just trying to gloss your fence sitting.

One, it's not a here or there. There are grades of change, of success or failure. Doing something is always better than doing nothing, cause it will have a better effect. It's not, do it right and you win the game, do it wrong we all lose. There is no win or lose. It's a journey, a process, like all of life.

'We may not be able to reverse the warming trend' is simply a phrase that makes no sense and is very dangerous. Yeah, there are problems coming down the pipe. How big do you want those problems to be? We can still decide that.

Two, what important decision has ever been waved away by saying, 'ehhh, there's a good chance we can't do anything about it anyway.'?

Ehhh, we probably won't be able to defeat the Nazi's anyway, so should we really try?

Come on man. Either your being purposefully nihilistic, or you still don't see how bad this 'warming trend' could be. Your the drunk at the bar ordering another double for last call when he knows he can't drive cause, at this point, how can it do any more harm?



And for the loss of jobs and profit. From my other post...

Lastly as an argument that is so obvious I don't know why the other side never acknowledges it, losing habitable land (major cities!) to the oceans, losing arable land to drought, and losing biodiversity to climate change is going to be far more devastating to the economy than the change that will occur from moving from non-renewable fuels. Far more. Like drop in the bucket difference.

This is a real thing. Not hyperbole. Several nations and economies are already feeling it.

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