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Originally Posted by MattyC

These aren't equivalent to what is being discussed though. The question is not whether getting heart disease from being obese is a disease, of course it is. The questions is whether or not the obesity itself (which casues the other problems) is a disease.

Lung cancer is a disease you can get from smoking, is the addicition also a disease? Alcoholism can cause a host of problems, but alcohol addiciton is a disease as well.

I personally haven't read a whole bunch about it, and never considered myself to be obese (overweight and out of shape for sure), but I've never known what the line is.

I fully give myself credit for my initial weight loss, and blame myself for the partial regression i've seen over the past few months. But that doesn't mean I might not also have a genetic predisposition to "glutony" or "laziness". Whether or not that's true or possible I have no idea, and I certainly don't look at it for an excuse, and wouldn't even if it was cut and dry true.

For example, Psycnet says he can eat anything he wants and not gain weight, and smoke socially but not be addicited to it and he can likely do the same with drinking. So is it not possible that is a biological thing? Certainly his metabolism is. I know people that look like Ryan Reynolds and haven't done a sit up in their lives and I know people that work out daily who can't seem to take it off. I don't consider myself someone afflicted with this, but when faced with a choice of cake vs apple as an intelligent person I know that choosing the cake is the wrong choice, but I still make it. We call it will power, but couldn't will power be a genetic trait just like addiction?

Fair enough. I did say I was being a bit over the top to make my point.