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Originally Posted by New Era
You don't seem like a realist at all. You seem like you want the team to go full Oiler while they rebuild, and you never go full Oiler. You need leaders and veterans around to take the pressure off the kids. That means you can't just dump guys like Hudler and Glencross and think you are not going to set the rebuild back. Plus, it is unlikely you are going to get back quality youth for either of those players. The NHL has evolved to where deals are made for players with similar potential or upside. If you want a young stud you need to deal a young stud. That's just the way the league has gone the last few years.
I would also say that your view of Baertschi and his place in our system a little off. I think if you talked to the management of the team they will tell you that several players took substantial steps forward last season and surpassed Sven on the depth chart. I would say that Gaudreau and Granlund both stepped past him and, even with his injury, Ferland is right there as well. Baertschi didn't help his cause much this past season and the performance of other prospects certainly clouds his future with the Flames. He's still a good prospect, but in an organization that just saw an influx of young talent he picked a very bad time to have a poor season. Based on management's comments I'm not so certain he is a player the team is so sure about being part of the future of the team, especially if they can move him for a piece at another position that is part could be part of the future in a bigger way.
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That's a lot of perception. Trading Hudler, a single vet, is going full Oiler. I guess we'll never trade a single one...they're too precious...
Here's the other side to your argument. If you refuse to trade your vets, you enter into a repetitive carousel of the past with the Flames' history; playing their vets longer than they are needed. You also enter into Canuck territory where they are terrified to trade away any of their vets for future progression. Kesler, the Sedins, Edler, etc all have had chances to be moved, yet they've opted to keep them and are losing value. Instead they traded their future in Schneider, and have a projected 3rd line C going forward. Smart business...
Eventually this team is going to have to move forward with their assets, and this would include Baertschi. You don't give up the 2nd best LW'er in your system for a little upgrade on D. You have Ferland pegged as better and more developed than Baertschi, and my perception is off? That's rich. He's is nowhere near better, and Granlund is a center.
If you aren't high on the kid, and he's the first guy you go to in a trade, that's fine. But don't sling him as a tradeable asset because he's considered redundant. It's a poor argument.
And you say you're the realist....
