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Old 06-02-2014, 08:37 PM   #258
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Originally Posted by combustiblefuel View Post
Here's the NY Times about the same " farm effect" study as ABC but in much more detail.



http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/10/op...=opinion&_r=1&



Here's a citation.



The working hypothesis is that innocuous cowshed microbes, plant material and raw milk protect farming children by favorably stimulating their immune systems throughout life, particularly early on. That spring morning, Dr. Holbreich gave me a tour of the bonanza of immune stimuli under consideration.



Here's another article on Amish kids about the same study as ABC roped of the new york times



http://foodfreedomgroup.com/2012/05/...omotes-health/

That's the same article I presented to you, which clearly states that everything that goes into growing up on a farm early in life benefits a person's immune system. The second link is actually purposely distorting an article that (again) I linked you to already. Both of those studies references can be found in my previous post.

Again, something that tests raw milk, specifically raw milk, and shows it's benefits. I've seen nothing from you yet. To say raw milk helps with allergies, it has to be beneficial on it's own, the "farm effect" aside.
There is, once again, no scientific evidence showing a link between the consumption of raw milk and allergy-fighting abilities.

It's part of an entire puzzle, but useless by itself. If you're advocating everyone grow up on a farm to fight allergies, then yes, evidence supports that.

Saying raw milk helps with allergies is like saying hay from a barn helps with allergies. By itself, it does not. If you disagree, I would implore you to ask any sufferer of "outdoor" allergies to go into a barn and stir up the hay bed, and then tell me how much better their allergies get.

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Originally Posted by combustiblefuel View Post
This one actually actual has the PowerPoint presentation Dr Beals researched for the gonverment . Just under his Name . Just gotta click it .





http://www.realmilk.com/safety/those...u-should-know/



This one is actually interesting to me, as it seems a little less bias and while it does admit to illnesses being born from raw milk, it does have some interesting numbers that suggests it may not be so bad. So thank you, I'll look more into it.

Over 60 references and we finally got to one that has relevance to some of the claims you're making, haha.
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