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Originally Posted by Coys1882
I understand what you're saying - I see the point; it seems like there are different ways to define the word which can cause you to get to your belief. At it's simplest it means "a hatred of men"
So when I see #killallmen that evokes a response in me that says "I've not wronged you - you've lumped me in with men who have simply because I'm male - that's unfair. I don't care how you've come to that belief - maybe it's justified, maybe it's not - but your statement now is misandric." Because misogyny exists doesn't mean I should be a victim of it's fallout.
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Which is understandable, but you're taking the example of a throwaway hashtag on twitter (which is more popular in tweets complaining about the hashtag than any tweets actually using it) as an example is Misandry. Again, Misandry doesn't exist unless you change the meaning to something incredibly basic and misrepresentative.
Let me ask: How are you affected by that hashtag? How has it affected your daily life? It doesn't have any societal impact, it doesn't change how you live your life. Some of the top music over the past 10 years has included terribly misogynistic views. Talk about killing women, them being sexually subservient, rape, etc are hugely represented in top 40 music. Why is that ok? Misogyny effects all women in multiple levels of society. Whether it be popular media, daily treatment, laws, etc. Misogyny isn't some one-off hashtag, so if that's what Misandry is, then why pretend it's even a thing?
#Killallmen is satire, it's rude, tasteless, misguided and idiotic satire done from a particular frustrated group of women, but it's still satire. The goal is to make you feel a similar level of offence, hatred, and frustration that women can feel
every single day. You read that, and feel offended. It's one hashtag. How about #Ihatefemales? #agoodwoman? How about a line in a song that states "When you know how I need you - To beat to a pulp on a Saturday night" or "papa loved mama - mama loved men - mama’s in the graveyard - papa’s in the pen".
What you're seeing is not Misandry, it's simply misogyny having a negative affect on men. It's blowback, not some new invented hatred of men, but rather a direct reaction to misogyny. Whether you like it or not, you as a man are equally responsible for the misogyny perpetuated by other men. Do you listen to Eminem? Or Pink Floyd? Or Fall Out Boy? Do you make careless jokes or let them be said by others without reactions? Most men aren't misogynistic, they don't purposely harm women, but most men DO accept misogyny in popular culture and thus help it thrive.
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Originally Posted by Zethrynn
So basically women get a free pass because some men are idiots? So if a man treats a woman with respect and she beats on him what is that called? Cause unfortunetly it happens.
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It's called abuse. Misogyny is far reaching and expansive, it isn't one guy hitting one girl, it's the thing that influenced that man into thinking that was acceptable. Tell me that men being physically or sexually abused is a societal problem that stems from hundreds of years of being treated as second class citizens, and then maybe there's a case for Misandry.