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Old 05-29-2014, 08:49 PM   #294
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I'd argue it's not a belief system as when I do this, a result happens.
It's still a belief system. A belief system is a set of mutually supportive beliefs. A belief is a psychological state where an individual holds a premise to be true. One's view of reality is a belief system (unless they deny reality exists, which in itself is still a statement of reality that they hold to be true so it's still a belief system).

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Sure everyone uses reason all day long but I look at it as a tool rather than that which is in charge.
Of course, though I'd say it's even more than a tool, it's more like the river we swim in. Without reason there IS no way to interact with reality, no consciousness, because then "Love is a virtue" and "purple monkey diswasher" have equal validity as truth statements about the smell of 5. There can be no structure or communication without reason.

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Reason to me is used too achieve what I need and want but it isn't the thing that drives my needs and wants.
Never claimed that it was. It can inform your needs and wants. I feel this discomfort inside, prior experience tells me that it can be satiated by putting stuff in my mouth, so I need and want food. That depends on reason, even defining your needs and wants depends on reason.

But just because our needs and wants don't originate from reason, doesn't mean they originate from a life force.
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