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Originally Posted by djsFlames
So there's nothing against "influential" but when I say "groundbreaking" you completely lose your ####?
They were influential because the music was groundbreaking. It tried something new. The elements it was comprised of was well known, but was never used in such a fashion, and in the process it created a new sound that was fresh and well received. It spawned many imitations in mainstream music. It's gained them one of the largest followings in the world of any band, to this day. I call that groundbreaking. You can #### about the wordplay, but unless your specific definition of the words appears under it in the dictionary, I'm not gonna take it back.
RATM sound nothing like LP. Yes they did it before, but they sound nothing alike. Zack de la Rocha's "rap" and Shinoda's can't really be compared. RATM had no electronics. And definitely didn't have the same production value. I'd call their instrumental style punk more than metal too. Anyways, you can keep your definition of what that means to you, but I'll keep mine. Don't care to argue semantics. The point is to discuss the album and the music.
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But this is the point: Musically speaking, Linkin Park brought absolutely nothing new to the table. Every element of their band has been done, often substantially better, by other bands. The term ground breaking, as per Websters is
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introducing new ideas or methods
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With that definition, you cannot call them ground breaking. The ideas they had have been done by many bands before. Their method is the same as well. The only "ground breaking" thing I can discern from what you believe makes Linkin Park ground breaking is that they have clean, less harsh production than most nu metal, and higher production values with more hooks. But that's not ground breaking at all. It's lovely studio editing, but the fundamentals of Linkin Park have been done to death by many nu metal bands.
There actually haven't been many threads for a band making a specific album, going back 10 pages (which goes back into October last year) in the Entertainment subforum. There's one album thread for the Marshall Mathers LP II, and that's it. When you made this thread, and then refered to Linkin Park as ground breaking, did you really think it wouldn't illicit a response?