Quote:
Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos
It's debatable at best that the right to own whatever and however many guns you want is actually a right at all. I don't think it's even debatable. I don't pretend to be any sort of Constitutional expert, but it doesn't say in there that an American citizen can own any gun he wants.
As much as the loons in the NRA want to frame it like "they want to take our guns away...", it's not that. Some reasonable gun control (background checks, education, sanity) is infringing on a right that doesn't even exist, so nobody is "losing a right".
Sort of related... A gun seller in the States is getting death threats for selling a "Smart Gun" that ensures that only the owner can fire it. He's selling a gun, ferchrissakes, and the gun nuts are against him even doing that.
It's like a car fanatic threatening to kill a dealer because he's selling a car with an automatic transmission. This is the kind of people they are dealing with. It may be (and sure looks like it) impossible, but they will just have to shove it down their throats eventually. You can't deal with someone like this rationally.
|
Exactly
This is where the debate should go.
You need to define what the right actually
is, and not that it's "guns or no guns" which the NRA has reframed the issue to be.
If you want to have effective change in gun control in the United States, you have to recognize that the debate has been framed
not as gun control, but as
a Right expressly stated in the Bill of Rights being taken away.
So you need to have a plan for effective gun control, while demonstrating
at every step along the way, every single one that every American's second amendment right is protected,
and how it's being protected.
Otherwise, it's status quo.
Secondly, there will always be people you can't deal with rationally. You won't get everyone on board with gun control, the same way you won't get everyone on board with anyone the government (or anyone for that matter) does or will do. You do however, need, to get a majority or more on board.