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Old 05-05-2014, 10:54 PM   #869
Oling_Roachinen
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You cut off my reservations about that idea in that it would cost us the vigilante kill in order to get a proven townie leader. That post was a response to Rathji who was spitballing an idea on how to resolve the vigilante reveal. I offered the idea as a way of going about it logically. Things were happening fast, and I wanted to slow things down and get us to solve the problem logically. There were votes still coming out for ineedanother at that point, and I was convinced that he was telling the truth.
You still made the suggestion. You didn't say "let's slow this down and discuss things" you pretty much said how about wasting your vigilante kill? Discussing it's disadvantages is something a Mafia would be just as likely to do to cover their tracks.

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Maybe we give it the night to see if someone else claims to be the vigilante, then if no one comes forward, you pick one of those three to lynch, then we could have you kill off one of the remaining two if necessary, or hold off for more info. Provided that the doctor is paying attention and makes sure to save you over night.
Here's again you trying to get rid of 2 of the initial 3 people ineedanother suggested (GP_Matt, Rathji, GGG I believe) even before his reveal. A Mafia member who's group don't include those 3 people (and the players later named by ineedanother) are super happy to continuously push voting with ineedanother. It gives them an out as it's ineedanother's vote and they were just jumping with a proven townsperson while at the same time casting suspicions on those who wont blindly vote with ineedanother, who he himself has said is green at the game. Ineedanother's motives are obviously good but unless he's actually outing mafia following him like you are proposing could be at a huge cost to the town.

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I maintain that I disagree that it is a bad strategy to follow ineedanother's lead
I've never really said it's a bad strategy, it's dependent. The problem was ineedanother had already listed his suspicions so there was no disadvantage to mafia jumping on board unless it included their own. You've been pushing to follow his list in multiple posts so it's a bit worrisome when so many people on his list are ending up as town. And again ineedanother is new to the game by his own admission, he might be confirmed town but having a new player lead the charge to find mafia could easily be in their best interest.

I'm just suggesting the more people that ineedanother's initial lists that end up as townsperson the more you should be come a target. Now if these last couple members end up being mafia from both sides then I would probably trust 100%.
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As for Agulati, I'm leaning more towards him making a slip than being a Mafia. If he is Mafia he's kicking himself in the head and going to go down as the stupidest player by far this game except maybe me for defending him but I think he's a townsperson. Jumping on him for what could be a mistake is in the Mafias interest as we don't really learn anything this day. I don't see why we need to have more votes than the hammer on him at this time. If we are still convinced tomorrow why not just vote tomorrow?
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