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Originally Posted by Textcritic
So, we should then expect the same thing to happen again? That's ridiculous. Every new GM has to start somewhere, and every one will get his first opportunity at some point. If the hockey world thought like you did, then Bill Torrey would still have a job.
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The only ridiculous thing here is the personal crusade you are on to try and convince anyone who doesn't agree with you that the hiring of Treliving was a great move. People are allowed to have a different opinion. They are allowed to state why they have a different opinion without being told their opinion is invalid by someone who has just as little to back up their counter opinion.
Now, should we expect the same thing to happen as happened with Button? Probably not. Could it happen again? Yes. Just as easily as Treliving turning into the next Bill Torrey. The NHL is a tough business and GMs are setup to fail. The proof will be in the pudding and some people are going to wait until the guy does something than go do a few press conferences to say whether the decision was a good one or whether they like it.
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Well, you should really get over that for a few reasons. Never mind the fact that Burke's position helps to insulate Treliving, the present situation in the NHL is so different that it was when Button was in charge of the Flames that it effectively defies any comparison. Button was charged with making a small budget, small market team with being competitive. The Flames were badly handicapped by the low Canadian dollar, and were on the brink of relocation. There were internal power struggles among the top executives. It is really no surprise at all that Button failed in these circumstances, but by the same token, it should also be noted that he is an exception to the rule.
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Button was a disaster because Button didn't know what he was doing and couldn't adapt. All the mitigating circumstances were constraints other managers had to work through and Button proved to be substandard in every way. Will Treliving have similar circumstances to work under? Probably not as severe, but he will face challenges that will test him as a manager. Those circumstances will tell us if we should be happy with the hiring or not.
Brian Burke is a wild card here. It is obvious that you are one of the set that thinks he is good for the hockey club. I'm still on the fence and waiting for a move to put his stamp on this team. What I have seen of Burke with the Flames is he's got a massive ego that stands in the way of progress, as we saw with the trade deadline. I'm not being sucked in by the myth being developed around this guy. I see him as a manager that happened into circumstances that allowed a championship to fall into his lap. I don't see a guy that has built much anywhere he's been. So far, the success we have seen with the Flames is a result of the Feaster/Weisbrod team. We're still waiting for Burke to make his big move. So far the hiring of Treliving is it, and he is an unknown. To me, their success is tied together and their story has yet to be written. I'll wait until that chapter has been penned before I proclaim anyone a winner or a loser.