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Originally Posted by strombad
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Fenwick ES:
Keith - 188
Weber - 191
Chara - 166
Corsi ES:
Keith - 281
Weber - 254
Chara - 255
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Are these raw ES Fenwicks and Corsis for? Or are they Fen/Corsi plus minus? Because if it's just events for that doesn't do anything to argue against Ashasx's point; I don't think anyone's arguing the Keith is a good offensive defenseman but his shot attempts against number is similarly high.
EDIT: Actually even if it is plus minus which it might be considering those seem like low raw numbers, there's still a lot of hair on that because there are 9 other guys on the ice influencing it and usually two of them are Toews, Hossa, Kane or Sharp.
He is a high event defenseman whose pace of offense-generation is higher than the pace he allows the other team to get chances against him. In other words, a top flite offensive defenseman who isn't top flite defensively; good enough offensively that his shortcomings defensively don't matter. He benefits in that regard from his teammates, many of whom ARE great defensively.
Solid refutation of the hits / blocked shots point though.