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Originally Posted by Point Blank
Saying that all the voters don't know what the Norris Trophy is because you don't agree with them and using 4 superficial stats to back up your point that Keith shouldn't even be nominated sounds pretty black and white thinking to me.
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I didn't just use 4 "superficial stats".
I applaud strombad for actually taking the time to find something to defend his claim.
But then he ends his post with "you're wrong, as usual".
It's not black and white. Keith doesn't even face the toughest competition amongst defencemen on his team. He's actually behind Hjalmarsson and Oduya, even in the playoffs right now.
He faces easy zone starts (3rd on his team), comparable to Denis Wideman's ratio.
If we're talking about the Norris Trophy for the best all-around defenceman, sorry, but I don't think a guy who doesn't even face the competition or zone starts on his team is worthy of being voted top 3.
But it's not black and white. strombad did well being the first person to actually do some research before criticizing what I said (although his combined pairing stats are nonsense, especially when you consider the quality of the other defenceman [Seabrook vs Josi & Hamilton], and he knows that).
Players like Weber and Giordano did it all this season. They hit, they blocked shots, and they scored. Keith didn't do those first two because the other defencemen balances it out? That's an argument against Keith, not for. It's an individual award.
This is not an argument anyone can win, so let's stop acting like it.