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Originally posted by Cowperson@Oct 12 2004, 09:09 PM
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@Oct 12 2004, 09:00 PM
Yup, Saddam was a bad mother #$@%er and he deserved to get the boot.# I'm glad he's gone, but it is still no excuse for an invasion by the US.# Nothing they find, short of a nuclear device with bin Laden's name on it, will change that fact.
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You would think that if Bush was smart, that they just plant wmds in Iraq after they invaded and didn't find anything. There were be no debate then and Bush would have another 4 glorious years in office. 
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I agree. If it was a pre-planned lie that's exactly what I would expect a normal person - not even a smart one - to do.
They just look like idiots and morons because they really DID expect to find something there.
Cowperson
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Bush= Geraldo! on live tv opening capone's safe.
I guess it is the US where that can happen and both still remain as popular as ever. [/b][/quote]
Well, to clarify, I'll repeat something I wrote in a thread on the weekend:
If you said before the war in Iraq that the country had no WMD, then hoist the Cup over your head and take a victory lap. Shanana, hey, hey, hey, goodbye!! You win. Tampa loses!!
I found in the pre-Iraq debates lots of people who put forth various objections to the approaching conflict, ranging through a gamut that included: "war is never the answer," "hundreds of thousands of civilians will be killed and nothing is worth that," "the inspectors need more time," "we don't know that he has WMD (different than saying he didn't)," "America has WMD so why can't Iraq have it," "Imperial America only wants Iraq's oil," etc, etc.
There were actually lots of people on this board who objected to the war but didn't object by saying: "Iraq has no WMD." It implies they didn't know for sure or they actually believed he possessed the weapons but objected on other grounds or didn't think WMD was important.
So . . . . throw your hands up in celebration if you said he had no WMD. You win. Truly. The podium is yours. If you didn't, then you might be in the muck with the rest of the wafflers or deniers.
In other words, I think a lot of the objectors to the conflict believed he had WMD or weren't sure he didn't. Both sides have a few Geraldo's.
In the end though, there's only one team that gets to wear the dunce cap and that's the way it is and should be.
Harry Truman had a sign on his desk - "The buck stops here."
Cowperson