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Old 04-23-2014, 04:54 PM   #164
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*some spoilers I guess*

Admittedly it's been nice that they did something radical. IMO, they just didn't pull it off very well. Personally I've been gradually falling off the bandwagon during the last three episodes.

Suddenly Ward is a superinfiltrator, a master seducer and a master actor (on top of being a superfighter and god knows what else), capable of creating completely fake emotional scenes convincing enough to fool even the most trained and paranoid of people, not to mention able to fool lie detectors and agents specifically trained to uncover people like him? I'm just not buying into any of that. It really doesn't help that the writers put all this load on Brett Dalton, who is easily the worst actor in the series, barely capable of portraying the very simple version of agent Ward we had previously.
He didn't fool the lie detector test though, he was off the charts. Patton asked a really stupid question that Ward could answer truthfully. He was clearly a master of all of this because he infiltrated and sucked in the unit from the very smart. He had no emotional attachment to them from the beginning. He was sent to get in with Coulson from the very start.

Now if they do something stupid like Sky redeems him then I'll be let down, but, but I can't see a redemption because he's killed actually characters and not just cannon fodder. I just don't see any way that he ends up anything other then in the Fridge or dead at the end of the year.

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I really hope they just kill Ward pretty soon, because every time there's a Ward scene right now I'm just waiting for it to end. I'm sure that's a complete non-starter however, he seems to have become the writer's favourite.
If he turns out as a villian which it seems to be, I doubt that they kill him. He's a lot like Shaw in Chuck who was killed twice and kept coming back for vengence

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Oh, and suddenly superparanoid Victoria Hand took stupid pills and completely OOC endulges the extremely suspicious whim of Ward right in the middle of a crisis, bad enough to get herself killed? WTF that made absolutely no sense, plus killed off a perfectly good character for no good reason. (Although I'm sure she's actually just locked up in a Hydra facility somewhere.)
She thought she had the Clairvoyant, Ward was a level 8 and had shown himself to be trustworthy, she got stupid basically, but I believe she's dead [spoiler]Saffron Barrows doesn't have any more appearances listed for Shield[/quote]. Plus they had to have Ward kill someone meaningful and she fit the bill. I liked the shock value of it, that your never safe.


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Suddenly Cavalry turns into a superpassive moper who just wants the love and attention of Coulson? *handpalm* Don't even get me started on that one.
Yeah that is kind of silly writing, I get it, but its too over the top.

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Suddenly Shield guards are complete cannon fodder (Fridge, Hub), when before they were actually a force to be reckoned with? (Tahiti). Not too bad in itself, but with all the other overly convenient stuff... I mean the Fridge had a reputation, it was supposed to be something special. Then they just raid it as if it was nothing? It's like the writers don't care at all about the lore they've worked to create.
Most of Shields leadership has been cleared out, you've got two level 8 operatives going against the junior varsity, and beyond that, they basically got inside by convincing the staff that they were good guys, then back shot them. It does make sense to me.


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Suddenly millionaire playboy entrepreneur Ian Quinn is all okay about having lost his companies, fortunes and fame, just because he gets this one MacGuffin? Come on, how is that supposed to make even remote sense?
That was a pretty significant mcguffin. Who needs fame and fortune when you have the ability to impose a new world order and your part of that new world order and you have access to untouchable tech and artifacts.



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And really the whole "Hydra has been hiding inside Shield this whole time" thing was more stupid than anything else. I mean yeah, it's a fantasy series, it doesn't have to make sense as such. But I really haven't been getting that much out of it.
Why wouldn't it make sense, Hydra wasn't destroyed at the end of Captain America 1, Red Skill was gone. Armin Zola was basically recruiting into Shield and created the Algorithms that because the Clairvoyant iirc.

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Mostly I've felt the situation of Shield is constantly out of touch with how the world has been portrayed previously. I'm just so not buying into any of that stuff and I'm really hoping they'll settle at some situation pretty soon and get on with telling stories with less twists and more actually sensible motivations.
I'm enjoying the twists and turns, there have been a lot of enjoyable holy crap moments between this and Winter Soldier.

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Really liked Acker and Oswald though, and there's still some good stuff to keep me watching at least until the season ends. We'll see how it goes from there.

Patton was great, he was onto Ward until he asked the one question that Ward could answer with the truth. That's why you don't ask open ended questions with Lie Detectors.

Acker is always hot. Even when she was scarred up in Dollhouse.
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