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Originally Posted by Shawnski

So let's compare a couple players here, one a god, one a dog.

Monahan, 75 GP, 15:58 AVG TOI, -20, Team GF 52, Team GA 58.
Butler, 82 GP, 20:15 AVG TOI, -23, Team GF 42, Team GA 86.

Had Monahan played the additional 7 games, he would have been on pace for an additional -2, so -22 on the year.

Had Monahan played 4:17 more per game, that would put him on pace then for another approx. -6, totalling -28.

One is a god, one is a dog.

The vitriol shown to Butler is beyond contempt.

Yes but +/- doesn't tell the entire story, and yes Monaha has more than enough to learn on the defensive side of the game. When you simply look at the team GF/GA ratio it gives quite a different story. Now you just need to decide how much of an importance goals on special teams play.