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Old 04-15-2014, 12:46 PM   #1094
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Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch View Post
Oh I have no doubt that there are Russian Spetsnaz or some of their other special action groups in the Ukraine stirring things up and aiding the nationalists.

When I left this morning the Ukraine was moving troops in a major anti-terrorist operation.

We'll see what the Russian resolve is before the weekend.
It's an invasion for sure. Most Ukrainian weapons are still the older issue wooden stock AK weapons. More 'protesters'
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Russian Army Colonel apparently caught inciting rebellion with the east Ukrainian police forces.

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The second propaganda disaster is a You Tube that captures a “Green Man” military officer in the Ukrainian town of Gorlovska. His uniform bears no insignias as he addresses about 20 local police, identified as having come over to the “side of the people.” Beside the officer stands a silent portly man in his 40s dressed in the black leather jacket attire of local mafia. The uniformed officer introduces himself as a “Podpolkovnik [lieutenant colonel] of the Russian Army.” He does not give his name. He then proceeds to appoint “black leather jacket” to lead the local ministry of interior, e.g. as the local chief of police. The lieutenant colonel then instructs the police officers to maintain order against those “who have not yet come over to the side of the people.” He instructs them to pin St. George ribbons on their uniforms to signify that they are fighting for the pro-Russian forces. One young policeman asks where the ribbons are. The Russian colonel answers dismissively that they are being “arranged.”
http://www.forbes.com/sites/paulrode...ps-in-ukraine/

Ukrainians have apparently identified the unit stirring up trouble in East Ukraine. It's apparently the 45th Guards Regiment of VDV (Russian paratroopers). Announcement by the deputy PM of Ukraine.



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"We identified those people that were/are located in Slovyansk and Kramatorsk."
"They belong to the 45th Guards Regiment of VDV(Air Landing Forces)[paratroopers] Kubyanko-1 (a unit maybe, not sure) which is based near Moscow"
"Currently its element(s) is/are present on/in Ukrainian territory"
NATO needs to move troops east as a counter for all the activity. There really needs to be much better border security, but Ukraine doesn't have the people it can trust in place to do that atm. But like you said Captain, I really doubt the Ukraine will exist at the end of the year if NATO and the west continue to sit by and do nothing. Right now though, I'm waiting for a declaration of war.

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