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Old 04-12-2014, 02:11 PM   #80
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Originally Posted by Mean Mr. Mustard View Post
No but it is often given to people consequent to poor life choices. Obesity, smoking, alcohol, drugs... These all result from people who have failed to pay heed to scientific evidence and cost the healthcare system billions of dollars. I don't see anyone saying that we should make people with COPD from smoking 40 years pay for their treatment.

As I said I agree with vaccines, I think that they are amazing in nearly every single way and have helped prevent countless diseases and deaths. However the approach of people is one of alienation and ridicule, which doesn't help, it makes things worse by getting people defensive.

The fact that likely half of the people on this board don't get their flu vaccine is pretty hilarious by the way, if someone got influenza without the vaccine, should they pay for that treatment?
But the people you are referencing above, though they may have made bad choices, continue those life choices sometimes through addiction, genetics, and less prominently depression. I think those situations are very different from making a choice on a measles vaccine.

And I don't believe we have to alienate or ridicule those who have opted out. I certainly won't. However, I also don't want to see our health care situation descend further into financial deficit, like the crisis now in France and England.

I can see we have our opinions on how to approach this issue. I'm pretty sure I won't change your minds, nor will you change mine (and that was probably not the intention of this conversation anyway). So maybe if I am more capable of empathy instead of being a sociopath, I might see your point of view.
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