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Originally Posted by snipetype
Ok I like like lindholm a lot. but my point is that meat and potatoes defencemen usually turn out to be good dmen. Where players with high potential that are little usually flake out. Not every great defencemen plays in the mold of niedermeyer, Coffey, Keith or doughty. Especially in the modern era the most effective defencemen are big, fast, shut down types like Suter, Weber, and pietrangelo who use both size and speed to control the game.
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Bogosian was supposed to be a meat and potatoes guy, so were Gudbranson and Schenn. Dylan McIlrath was the definition of a meat and potatoes d-man.
Griffin Reinhart was a meat and potatoes d-man too but Islanders would probably rather have Lindholm, Trouba, etc at this point.
Nothing wrong with meat and potatoes d-men, you just shouldn't take them with top 5 picks.
The guys you stated aren't the meat and potatoes guys IMO.
Pietrangelo is a dynamic player with great offensive instincts, Trouba is a physical monster with a good shot, Lindholm is a good puck mover with great hockey sense and offensive instincts.
And those guys all developed a ton post draft. That is the issue with d-men using a top 5 pick on them is a toss up because they take longer to develop and are more risky to develop, a forward is more of a sure thing.
Do you want Victor Hedman or Matt Duchene? Erik Gudbranson or Ryan Johansen? Adam Larsson or Ryan Strome? Ryan Murray or Alex Galchenyuk? Mackinnon or Jones? Sean Monahan or Darnell Nurse?
The reason you see a bias is because history shows you can't get top line centers or forwards later in the draft but you can get good d-men later in the draft.