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Old 04-07-2014, 11:23 AM   #102
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Originally Posted by BigTuna View Post
LOL. How old is that data? Joey Crabb, Keith Aulie? How about the last 2 years.
That data is better for determining whether or not it was smart to keep Bozak and lose Grabovski, and demonstrates that it wasn't. Read my post: the data is total. It is current as of the moment Grabovski was bought out and Bozak was re-signed, at which point they weren't playing on the same team anymore.

Incidentally if you want to look at the last two years, here.
Tyler Bozak 2012-2014: 44.3 FF% close, 46.6 CF% 5on5 48.8 GF% 5on5, 31.0 OZ%, 1011 PDO.
M Grabovski 2012-2014: 48.3 FF% close, 50.2% CF%, 5on5 48.7 GF% 5on5, 25.9 OZ%, 1002 PDO.

This includes an apparent "career" season for Bozak this year, and Grabovski's oft-referenced-by-Leafs-fans terrible final year under Carlyle. In spite of this, Grabovski ends up with basically identical GF/GA numbers even with a 9 point disadvantage in his PDO. He is 4% better at possession, despite starting 5% fewer shifts in the offensive end. Oh, and Grabovski played against tougher opponents.

Again, Grabovski wins even with the deck stacked against him in terms of circumstances. You're seeing with Clarkson what you saw with Grabovski last year - players with a proven track record in the NHL who suddenly and completely cratered under a Carlyle "system". Move Grabovski to Washington and he's a useful 2C again.

If you want the issues explained in simple terms, here is a good article from before the season: http://theleafsnation.com/2013/7/6/e...y-hockey-terms

P.S. - hilarious note that the only players on Toronto's page over 50% in even strength Corsi the past two years are Grabovski and Macarthur. You can't make this stuff up.

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The only time it worked out for the Leafs when Grabovski was there was when he got reduced to a third-liner.
This post for me sums up how Leafs fans work. There is no basis for this statement and all evidence points the other way. Yet they will construct fantasy worlds to justify the completely awful, boneheaded decisions made by their management group. Which is why they continue to get away with running their team like a tire fire. You guys deserve what you get.
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