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Originally Posted by dammage79

Hasek certainly deserves to be in the top five all time goalies convo. But best of all time? It's opinion for sure and all the power to those who say he was, but he wasn't. Brodeur is, followed by Roy, then maybe Hasek. Maybe. If he had the stats to back it up or some records as well, then maybe I'd side more with that opinion, but there really isn't.

Personally, Belfour and Hasek are too close to each other and as a Belfour fan boy, I'll choose Belfour over Hasek. But that's nothing based on stats. He was just awesome to watch all the time.

EDIT: Best goalie ever to never play in the NHL when he rightfully should have, Tretiak. Put him Fourth. Dryden, Sawchuk, Plante...theres a really long list of goalies in this debate.

Double Edit: Good for Hasek and Buffalo. He was a major part of everything they built up in in the late 90's and early 2000's. Deserved honor.

How about these for stats?

From 1993-94 to 2001-02, Dominik Hasek faced 1,060 more shots than Martin Brodeur, and gave up 135 fewer goals.

Looking at only age 29-34 seasons (Brodeur's prime), Hasek faced 1,494 more shots than Martin Brodeur, and still gave up 41 fewer goals.

Between 1995-96 and 2000-01, St. Louis had a strong defence led by Pronger and MacInnis. Buffalo's top pair was Zhitnik/Smehlik. In those six seasons, Buffalo allowed 2,781 more shots against than St. Louis. Yet 40 more goals were scored against the Blues than against the Sabres.

Copy pasta from here. Great blog BTW for those interesting in goalies.

Brodeur's teams were far and away better than Hasek's when they were both in their prime. And Hasek still had better numbers.

Brodeur's winning percentage was lower in the playoffs vs reg season and Hasek's was higher in the playoffs vs reg season.

Brodeur has the longevity, yes and his later Vezina wins are impressive. I also love that he was so good at handling the puck that they changed the rules.

Brodeur is maybe top five, but he is not better than Hasek. Roy is also better than Brodeur. Both Roy and Hasek were better at their peak than Brodeur.

Belfour was sick, but he isn't on these guys' levels. A distant fourth perhaps if we're comparing all four. I can't speak on Plante and those guys, having never watched them.