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Old 03-25-2014, 10:36 PM   #105
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No, I'm asking you to prove your claim. If you are so certain what you believe it factual you should have no problem proving your claim.

Yes, it is. You stand up and try that crap in the classroom or the boardroom you'll get your head handed to you. You are countering someone's claim with one of your own. You are expected to back up that claim. If someone stands up and claims "the founding fathers were Christians" and you claim otherwise, the onus is equally on you to prove otherwise. If someone claims that investing in said portfolio is a wise decision, and you claim otherwise, the onus is then on you to prove why it is a bad investment decision. You have made a claim about Baertschi's attitude, to which there is evidence to support the claim - through cryptic comments from management followed by benchings, a demotion, and passovers in the minors for call ups - so the onus is on you to either prove your position correct or that of the other individual incorrect. Basic rules of rhetorical engagement.

So, back it up. If your position is solid there must be all sorts of stories or quotes from different members in the Flames organization that Baertschi displayed a professional attitude during the time frame in question.
Sorry, won't allow you to turn this around on me.

Look at your previous posts and my reply. I simply said back up what you've said, that's all. Your inability to actually do so and attempt to turn it around on me to prove a negative is rather childish and borderline stupid. I was never countering your claim, I was asking you to prove yours. You haven't been able to do that.

I've been in classrooms, I've been in boardrooms. When someone makes a claim about an issue they are asked to expand on it and explain why it's an issue with evidence and proof. They don't sit back down, sulk in the chair and yell out "prove me wrong!' like you're attempting to do. You're really hugely confused.

I'll say it again in case you missed it. I was never countering your claim, I was asking you to prove yours.

All your chest beating, your board room analogies, silly bravado and long winded posts about nothing doesn't change that.
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