Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community - View Single Post

kerriffic · 03-25-2014, 01:47 PM

So the TSB released their report on the First Air 737 crash up in Resolute in 2011. From the CBC article on the report: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north/...rash-1.2584641
Heres the link to the TSB report: http://www.bst-tsb.gc.ca/eng/enquete...2/a11h0002.asp

"The report released Tuesday suggests the flight’s cockpit crew spent their final moments struggling to cope with misaligned navigational sensors as the 737 made its final approach amid drizzle and heavy fog. The sensors were displaying a bearing that was 17 degrees off from the plane’s actual heading. Signals from GPS and the airport runway’s landing beacon were giving correct information.

Capt. Blair Rutherford was so busy trying to reconcile the conflicting readings that he “likely did not have a high-level overview of the situation. This… compromised his ability to identify and manage risk,” the investigation found"

also over a 20-second span, 2½ minutes before the 737 plowed into the hillside, Hare (the co-pilot) made five statements about the aircraft’s position being off.
Rutherford replied that he thought the autopilot was properly navigating the plane toward the airport — but the investigation found that he had likely accidentally tapped on his steering yoke, changing the programmed destination.
Hare then said that GPS and the landing beacon sent out from the runway both showed their approach angle to be off. One minute and 20 seconds before the crash, he recommended aborting the landing, after reminding the captain about the hill to the right of the runway.
Rutherford responded that he would continue with the landing as planned.
With a minute to go, Hare again made several comments about taking corrective action.
Finally, six seconds before the crash, Hare called Rutherford by his first name. “I don’t like this,” he said.

So i'm no expert but this sounds to me like a bad case of CRM. This obviously isn't the first crash to happen in the case of a co-pilot failing to be assertive enough. Just curious if our resident avgeeks could provide more insight into this? In cases like this is the Captain under alot of pressure to avoid a go-around? Or is it more of an ego thing?

03-25-2014, 01:47 PM	#2519
kerriffic Backup Goalie Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: St John's Exp:	So the TSB released their report on the First Air 737 crash up in Resolute in 2011. From the CBC article on the report: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north/...rash-1.2584641 Heres the link to the TSB report: http://www.bst-tsb.gc.ca/eng/enquete...2/a11h0002.asp "The report released Tuesday suggests the flight’s cockpit crew spent their final moments struggling to cope with misaligned navigational sensors as the 737 made its final approach amid drizzle and heavy fog. The sensors were displaying a bearing that was 17 degrees off from the plane’s actual heading. Signals from GPS and the airport runway’s landing beacon were giving correct information. Capt. Blair Rutherford was so busy trying to reconcile the conflicting readings that he “likely did not have a high-level overview of the situation. This… compromised his ability to identify and manage risk,” the investigation found" also over a 20-second span, 2½ minutes before the 737 plowed into the hillside, Hare (the co-pilot) made* five statements about the aircraft’s position being off.* Rutherford replied that he thought the autopilot was properly navigating the plane toward the airport — but the investigation found that he had likely accidentally tapped on his steering yoke, changing the programmed destination. Hare then said that GPS and the landing beacon sent out from the runway both showed their approach angle to be off. One minute and 20 seconds before the crash, he recommended aborting the landing, after reminding the captain about the hill to the right of the runway. Rutherford responded that he would continue with the landing as planned. With a minute to go, Hare again made several comments about taking corrective action. Finally, six seconds before the crash, Hare called Rutherford by his first name. “I don’t like this,” he said. So i'm no expert but this sounds to me like a bad case of CRM. This obviously isn't the first crash to happen in the case of a co-pilot failing to be assertive enough. Just curious if our resident avgeeks could provide more insight into this? In cases like this is the Captain under alot of pressure to avoid a go-around? Or is it more of an ego thing? Last edited by kerriffic; 03-25-2014 at 01:50 PM.