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Old 03-21-2014, 06:39 PM   #921
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Hate to say it but it's probably going take a military threat to get Putin to back off, he's a bully and that's the only thing he understands.

Move a couple of F-22 raptor squadrons into Turkey,Romania and Greece and do a couple low flyby's in the Black Sea, pop a couple of ohio class Subs up for a look in the Marmara Sea and make sure the Russian's see a couple of bad ass carriers within striking distance as well.

You simply can't allow this turd to run around Europe taking lands/countries and threatening to arm ###### countries like Iran with nukes. Tell him, get out and go home or we'll push you home.
Interesting.

A couple of things. Putting Ohio class submarines in there is a huge provocation, they are a strategic platform and not a tactical platform. Their only true offensive capability is nuclear based. Your basically telling the Russians that your only answer is a nuclear one.

This would be equivalent to a Typhoon popping up right off of the coast of New York and opening its missile doors.

As it stands the prudent thing to do would be for Obama to announce that he's dispatched a pair of Virginia or even a Seawolf to the area to patrol.

that would change the Russian Navy's operational orders and tempo.

The American's used to do it to China all the time when they got randy in exercising near Taiwan. Half the time they wouldn't even dispatch the subs


The rest you can do and that's fine. My concern with putting the carriers there or a major U.S. task force near a Russian Task force is that mistakes absolutely will happen and you will either end up with dead people, or you will end up with what's called a ramming war.

The F-22 move is what I've been advocating, the Russians have moved up what they call an air defense division, so it would be an interesting turning battle as the Russians would be able to see if they can lock on or not.

It also sounds like Putin is going old school and demanding repayment of the Ukraines 15 billion dollar debt to Russia.
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