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Old 05-31-2006, 01:13 PM   #12
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Some debunking:

1) Lanny: Ken already touched on it.
Yes, hydrogen and water can be produced from water but that takes a lot of energy. You then do what with the water? Burn it to produce.....WATER. So you're going from one to the other and then back again. This my friend is a great example of the first law of thermodynamics. Thinking you can use electricity to get hydrogen from water and then use that hydrogen is just an extra step of innefficinecy, you're better off using the electricity by itself. If you think this is a source of endless energy, then I've got a great perpetual motion machine I'd like to sell you.

2) GATW: I'd like to see that show, because I'm sure there is just a little bit of crappy science in it, or you misunderstood what they were saying. I wouldn't even doubt if it was just full of crackpots, the Learning chanel doesn't shy away from crazy therories flawed as they may be, anyone see the "Documentary" on Nostrodamus? Yes water can be a source of fuel (Hydrogen being that fuel, but a source of a fuel and a source of energy are totall different), but getting and then using that hydrogen is inneffcient and uses more energy than it produces, the only advantage it gives is that you have a fuel that is transportable, whereas the electicity used to make it is not. If you don't beleive me, I can refer you to one of my professors who had a PHD in Thermodynamics (and had a tendency to flip out on students who tried to make the same arguements some of you guys are), who is pretty knowlegeable on the subject.

3) Kev: I have no idea what you're talking about????? But the last thing you said about converting it (I assume you mean energy) into the right form, is a far cry from being an outright fuel source. We can convert just about anything into a fuel, but the energy we put in will always be less than the useful energy we get out (Of course again barring a nuclear reaction).

Guys, I'm not trying to be a dick, but they are called the LAWS of thermodynamics for a reason.

There is no way to use water as a fuel source, It is possible to use water to react with things to produce fuel (for instance drop some sodium in water and you could use heat it produces to power something, but that's not really practical), but rest assured it is physically impossibe (again nuclear reactions not withstanding), to use only water as source of energy.
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