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Originally Posted by Iowa_Flames_Fan

Is that so?

The Union of Concerned Scientists begs to differ:
http://www.ucsusa.org/global_warming...gerprints.html

And these Climatoligists differ back (there is no 'consensus')
http://www.friendsofscience.org/index.php?ide=4

MYTH 6: The UN proved that man–made CO2 causes global warming.
FACT: In a 1996 report by the UN on global warming, two statements were deleted from the final draft. Here they are:
1) “None of the studies cited above has shown clear evidence that we can attribute the observed climate changes to increases in greenhouse gases.”
2) “No study to date has positively attributed all or part of the climate change to man–made causes”
To the present day there is still no scientific proof that man-made CO2 causes significant global warming.



But in case you think "scientists" are a biased interest group, the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) concludes that

http://www.newscientist.com/channel/...limate-change/

There are literally dozens of others, but I won't bore you. You might start with the National Academy of Sciences' report to the Bush administration on this issue, which pretty much directly contradicts what you just said. The fact is, there's a broad scientific consensus on this point. Are there cranks who are producing junk science on the other side of this issue? Of course.

I wouldn't call current and former climatoligists idea's 'junk science'


MYTH 2: The "hockey stick" graph proves that the earth has experienced a steady, very gradual temperature increase for 1000 years, then recently began a sudden increase.
FACT: Significant changes in climate have continually occurred throughout geologic time. For instance, the Medieval Warm Period, from around 1000 to1200 AD (when the Vikings farmed on Greenland) was followed by a period known as the Little Ice Age. Since the end of the 17th Century the "average global temperature" has been rising at the low steady rate mentioned above; although from 1940 – 1970 temperatures actually dropped, leading to a Global Cooling scare.
The "hockey stick", a poster boy of both the UN's IPCC and Canada's Environment Department, ignores historical recorded climatic swings, and has now also been proven to be flawed and statistically unreliable as well. It is a computer construct and a faulty one at that.
There are also "scientists" who believe in creationism--and there have been "scientists" who believe that the earth is flat. Now is NOT the time to stick our heads in the sand on this issue, because it's not yet too late to create meaningful change.

As it happens, I agree with some who've said that nuclear power is probably the answer, at least in the short term. That makes me a bad environmentalist, I'm told. I'm no expert--and I realize that this merely substitutes one problem for another. But warming and greenhouse gases is a much more urgent problem right now--and we need an efficient power source that can be implemented quickly.

I don't mind nuclear, but it is going to have to be a combination of alot of different energy sources to cut down on pullution.